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with a solution. >> that's true. that's what president obama -- he's been saying to republicans here and there, i'm willing to put more on the table but pour the moment, democrats are saying don't touch social security, don't cut medicare. this will come down to whoever blinks first on tax rates. republicans are going to bend on tax rates. maybe not $250,000 threshold, maybe closer to a million. but until that happens we won't see progress but obama will have to deal with problems on his left. he has to put entitlement reform, maybe raising the age of medicare down the road. >> when we look towards the beginning of the year and inauguration and seating of new congressional members, you'll have about 90 new folks that have been elected to get involved in this. is there a partial solution before that? and what changes do you expect given the fact we'll have new voices? >> i definitely think new voices -- they're going to be -- whatever deal is reached this year, and i think there will be a deal up until new year's eve, then you have members who are leaving voting. that could round up the votes beca
of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been no progress and there will be nor jockeying and leverage the next week. >> i want to point out in the president's weekly address that was issued yesterday, he says there's wiggle room by democrats to come up with a solution. >> that's true. that's what president obama -- he's been saying to republicans here and there, i'm willing to put more on the table but pour the moment, democrats are saying don't touch social security, don't cut medicare. this will come down to whoever blinks first on tax rates. republicans are going to bend on tax rates. maybe not $250,000 threshold, maybe closer to a million. but until that happens we won't see progress b
to the fiscal cliff. >> president obama responded, showing republicans where they could find the details. >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long that included one sentence on revenue. the proposal here includes, i believe from pages 17 to 45, details on proposed spending cuts by the president, pages 17 to 45. i recommend them to you. >> so, at this point, a deal before christmas looking unlikely. as senate majority leader harry reid admitted yesterday. but in an interview with barbara walters, president obama predicted that republicans would eventually give in on taxes. >> the most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st, and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> prediction. are you going to be able to raise taxes, yes or no? >> oh, taxes are going to go up one way or another. >> oh, they are? >> and i think t
% of republican voters say that they think a.c.o.r.n. stole the election for president obama. the good news is that is a drop of 3 percentage points since 2008, when 52% of republicans thought that a.c.o.r.n. stole the election for president obama. the bad news is that a.c.o.r.n. no longer exists, and so the 49% of republicans who still believe that a.c.o.r.n. stole this election for president obama are even more delusional than they were four years ago when the group thought they stole the election at least existed. some republicans are so bummed by the re-election of president obama that they don't want to live in america anymore. they also don't want to move. so 25% say they would like their state to secede from the union. only 56% of republicans want to remain americans. and 19% of republicans are still so dazed and confused they haven't been able to decide if they want to secede om the union. other republicans are making the saner choice of seceding from the party. in public policy polling's final poll before the election, they found that 37% of voters identified themselves as republic
." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> congressman jim clyburn of south carolina and eugene robinson on the latest republican fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna genteel-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the reality start to set in on members of the republican p
obama? exactly no one. not even rush limbaugh. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who could stop what's going to happen. >> with the fiscal cliff just 22 days away. >> we're down to the final three weeks. >> the president is on the move. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> president obama on the ground in michigan. >> i will work with republicans. >> delivering a speech at an engine manufacturing plant. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> they are ready to make a deal. >> they are ready to make a deal on tax rates. >> republicans know that they have to give on taxes. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what is happening. >> senator corker has nailed this one. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> you have to have leverage. >> we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> could a secret meeting seal the deal when it come to the fiscal cliff? the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks.
of florida, charlie crist joins us tonight. >>> president obama is campaigning and republicans are considering. will the president gain a small victory on taxes or a big deal. >>> and we have the annual list of the most notable quotes of the year, the verbal gaffes forever. the list is fool of bloopers like legitimate rape and etch-a-sket etch-a-sketch. let's see if you can guess which verbal stupble made the top of the list. >>> let me finish with the key percentages of the year. remember 1%? remember 8%? and, of course, 47%. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got nine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein..
house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >>> also, what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay down campaign debt. guess who's getting blamed for his election loss in the fund raising e-mail? quote, republicans all over the country were forced to accept defeat rather than celebrate victory. in our case we found ourselves caught in the liberal media cross hairs. never has indiana seen a more obvious example of media bias by reporters more interested in defeating conservatives than reporter the news. rnc chair reince priebus had him in mi
to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: today, president obama and house republicans are locked in a politicalstair staredown. >> we can probably solve it in a week, it is not that tough, we need that breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> although the president seems obsessed about raising taxes on you, we feel it is not the right direction to go. >> reporter: it comes down to a tug of war over taxes. the president's proposal, increasing rates on americans making more than $250,000, to raise 1.6 trillion over a decade. house speaker john boehner wants to cut the number in half. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government. without raising tax rates. >> reporter: and the president today offered this warning to republicans. amid reports they may accept mr. obama's plan to extend tax cuts for most americans while allowing them to go up for the richest, and start the fight all over again during debt limit talks early next year. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it
that president obama and congress will want done, so there's a lot of room and space and time, four long years for negotiations. sometimes the democrats will have more leverage and sometimes the republicans will have more leverage. >> right. people yell it's not fair, it's not fair, everybody does it. >> it's not four years. we will have a debt ceiling conversation in a few months. you have to remember that this is rapid fire. as soon as we get passed the fiscal cliff, president obama will have to meet again with boehner to discuss the debt ceiling. >>> steven baldwin was arrested and when he was released he wanted to come on this show and explain himself. that's next. how do you get fr. to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. ln fact, by thinking about where want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might find the best route... leads somewhere you weren't even looking. let's get to work. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why
. >>> president obama remains firm that the wealthy must pay more. a few republicans are joining him. pipa visits sister kate. >>> the $8 million man and nasa's high res look at you on our planet earth. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development s
so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the ed show, steny hoyer explains why he thinks the debt ceiling vote should be taken off the table. >> the debt ceiling is a phone y vote, frankly. and from time to time democrats have made it an item that they demagogue down and the republicans have demagogued on it, as well. the debt limit is a recognition o
't opened yet but has oscar buzz and is sloweded in controversy. republicans say the obama administration gave directors unprecedented and possibly inappropriate access to classified information. the white house denies this. here's barbara starr. >> you don't think she's a little young for the hard stuff? >> washington says she's a killer. >> reporter: it's a hollywood spy thriller with as much as oscar buzz as it has controversy. "zero dark 30," the story hunt for osama bin laden from the oscar winning powerhouse team of katherine bigelow and mark bowe recreates how it all happened, from the female cia analyst who finally figured out where he was hiding to the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed him. >> there are two narratives about the location of osama bin laden. >> reporter: the controversy? the obama administration has faced accusations it gave undeserved access to the film makers. in real life, everyone involved in the hunt for bin laden remains sworn to secrecy. but the film makers say they got firsthand accounts. they just won't say exactly how that happened. >> i think as a reporter you w
. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majority, was they wanted both balanced. they wanted cuts and tax increases. which is what both john boehner and the president -- in very stridently different ways have put forward. >> well, one of the challenges you have is if you ask the question, would you be willing to tax the rich, some people say yes. second question, if they tax the rich in a deal, do you think they'll also hit the middle class. yes. if they raise taxes,
and we actually don't know when it was or what was said. and we do know who. president obama and republican house speaker john boehner sitting down for a private meeting. we can tell you the meeting apparently the latest effort to keep us all from going over what some analysts predict would be another recession, triggeri triggering events the fiscal cliff. is tax hikes and deep spending cuts january 1st if law makes can't come up with an alternative. no word if any progress was made. both men issuing statements about the talks, saying the lines of communication remain open. and police in london are owning up to authorities in awes as as the investigation deepens into an of radio station's hoax call made to the hospital. and made by these two. and they managed to dupe a nurse into giving out personal, private information and that nurse, by the way, may have committed suicide. so far police have not exactly linked her death to the prank and now for the time being, we're hearing from members of her family. >> and i'll really miss her a lot. she was a good sister-in-law, i can't
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's capital despite the chill between democrats and republicans. >> president obama dug in his heels insisting on tax increase or higher earners. >> and they both agree he that the other's proposals are ridiculous. >> just a sampling of the coverage this week as the media keep a watch on what's done or not to avert the fiscal cliff. >> jim shall the overriding theme in the media seems to be that president obama won the election and therefore should do what he wants and the media seems to forget na john boehner and everyone else won their elections as well and they're a co-equal branch of government. >> i think the media loves the story of president obama's comeback and the new york time describes him as disciplined and unyielding and focused on this and i think there are other media stories as well. the second media story or narrative. which one wants to grow by virtue of the tax increases and get new perspective from the mainstream media and the third is mcconnell and boehner back and forth. and the media want to praise him if they raise taxes and. the sort of grover norquist and he's a funny
blocked the committee from withdrawing his nomination. >> now to washington where president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff as a borrowing limit. both sides seem to be digging in their heels with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff. fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes not by raising rates own the wealthy as the president has demanded. >> we're not insisting on rates out of spite but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't keep borrowing mown and raising taxes and expect the problem to go away. >> with no solution in sight the white house budget is now ordering the pentagon and other an an jencies to finalize their plan to avoid massive spending cuts. >> secretary of state clinton says nato's decision missiles to turkey sends a clear message that tour ski is backed by its allies. the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looki
's no deal done. congressional republicans will get 53% of the blame game. obama just 27%. now, that's an interesting development there. i looked at that all afternoon, and your view of that. >> i think it's absolutely right, number one. number two, the republicans are creating a symbol that is not good for their brand, that they're going to let the tax codes go up for the middle class to protect the wealthy. the president has framed this very well. he's talked about balance. he's talked about the 2% having to do a little bit more. and on every one of those things the public is overwhelmingly with him. one-third of mitt romney's voters believed the top 2% need to pay a little more. >> conceptually you're obviously right. the polling is right. here is my difference. the conditions in which the world lives. right now we're talking about a possible fiscal cliff. we're not off the cliff. >> right. >> if it's january 2nd or 3rd and the stock market is going down by a couple thousand points around the world. the japanese markets, european countries, countries in europe which are precarious
to the polls in big numbers, you end up with barack obama, two-term president. republicans tried to cross reality and reality won. the demographics of the country are changing. we're facing another set of realities about our changing nation. since 1960, realities. the federal government has taken in taxes that equals 18% of the overall economy. it's 17.8% to be exact. that's become something of a magic number in politics. on both sides of the aisle. you tell us orrin hatch loves the 18%. if we keep all the bush tax cuts, we stick at that magic according to orrin hatch, that means, quote, taxes would still be high enough compared to recent history." just because that's how high they were in the past. across the political spectrum, consider warren buffett and higher taxes for the rich. he wrote "our government's goal should be to bring in 18.5% revenue of gdp and spend about 21% of gdp. why? he doesn't say. those are levels attained over extended periods in the past. okay. well then. permit me a descent from the oracle of omaha. the average of our past revenue is not sufficient to sustain o
. >> president obama still has the american people firmly on his side. this is what the republicans don't get, apparently. 60% support raising taxes on households earning more than $250,000 a year. this is why a republican congress tom cole said once again fellow republicans should pass a tax cut ex-suspension for 9% of americans. cole said he believes the measure could pass in the house. >> in your caucus, is there a lot of burgeoning republican support for that? >> honestly, i think if it got to the floor, it would carry. this doesn't say we're going to raise taxes on anybody vps okay, this group for sure. get that done with. get it over with. >> that sounds good until you realize republicans have already chosen their next hostage. republicans are willing to risk putting our country into default once again because they're losing a tax fight. president obama shouldn't give an inch to any of these joker, especially speaker boehner in these negotiations. the president still has the upper hand and the american people on his side. so we go off the cliff. big deal. it's going to be the republican
on the debt limit. republicans are willing to take the american economy hostage again. president obama said very clearly that he would not play that game. >> so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> today senator lindsey graham of south carolina challenged the president and laid out the same strategy of senator corker. >> yes, we will play that game, mr. president, because it's not a game. but in february or march, you have to raise the debt ceiling. and i can tell you this, there is a hardening on the republican side. we're not going to raise the debt ceiling. we're not going to let obama borrow any more money or any american congress borrow any more money until we fix this country from becoming greece. and that requires significant entitlement reform. >>
: last week i said let obama have what he wants. republican member should vote present. maybe not even let him go off the cliff. let it go through and let barack obama have what he wants. people voted for it. we slide in recession and we say look, we had it their way. i think they are not carrying about the nation's future. right now, $136,000 household in debt. this is about getting re-elec re-elected. i want to say something quickly about the simpsons. it's dangerous to trivialize what is going on. simpson, if we go up the fiscal cliff simpsons are hit the hardest. the taxes go up 9,000%. writers of the simpson, the taxes will skyrocket. this isn't a joke. >> bob: you are right. but this is not going to happen. there is adjustment to social security. real cuts. >> eric: you know what -- >> bob: can i say something? >> eric: you add ornaments to add things. in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was p
should republicans in the white house have exchanged new proposal tsds today. and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. explain. >> well, look, we're still in the fairly early stage of posturing here, and nobody can strike a deal until they get closer to it, until their feet are to the fire. >> when do you say the fire begins? >> nobody can make any prediction for sure -- >> try. >> they could hammer this out in three hours if they really wanted to. >> that's right. >> but if they don't wait until the very end of december or even go over the cliff -- >> i think it's 21. i'm going to bet on -- what's your hunch about this, ron reagan? you're here -- i think they're going to try to get it done by christmas just for efficiency's sake and not to scare the horses. that's the thought i have. i may be conservative about this. >> y
because let me read this. it's shameful that republicans are playing in to mr. obama's hands. negotiating in public amongst themselves. prematurely giving up on the tax issue and undermining house speaker boehner in the process to which bill kristol responded, it would be great if they had an idea of what republicans can do. they don't. if they follow the editors over the cliff the only affect i'm afraid would be to turn a retreat in december in to a panicked rout in january. that's an interesting back and forth combined with what you said, as well. >> no, it is. i think you see in that back and forth a conservative outlet, at least the editorial page. some of the fissures within this party. just the direction of the party, there is, again, this big vacuum. there isn't a real leader of the republican party right now and seeing the different camps sort of fighting for primacy and fighting for a voice in terms of what the direction of this party will be not only on this issue but just in terms of larger issues about the direction of the country. >> and michael, as we pointed out, the presid
when he explained the arithmetic of what obama inherited. >> in tampa the republican ar gument against the president's re-election was pretty simple, pretty snappy. it went something like this. we left him a total mess. he hadn't cleaned it up fast enough. so fire him and put us back in. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall. it had just shrunk nine full percent of gdp. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. are we doing better than that today? the answer to that is yes. >> david, i don't know you at all but i have to tell you, who would you rather have make your case to st. peter than this guy, bill clinton? this guy can sell. what did you think of the impact ofç his convention address. >> part of that was set up by the fact -- i thought it was an unfortunate statement by republicans, were you better off than you were four years ago? you couldn't have picked a more unfortunate contrast. ultimately by setting it up as a contrast to four years ago created an opportunity for clinton to deliver that speech. again, i want to go back for the opportunity here
of letting up today 20 white house and the republicans in congress. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i'm willing to find ways to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other americans who depend on it. and i'm willing to make more entitlement spendings cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. >> reporter: his remarks came one day after house speaker john boehner announced the talkes were stalled. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to be report. >> reporter: his democratic counter-part ploals blamed boehner for the stalemate. >> what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> reporter: such is the state of negotiations 23 days before the deadline when federal income tax rates will revert to higher clinton-era leveles, a 2% payroll tax cut will expire, and long-term unemployment benefits will dry up for over two millio
: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> now, the revenues were put in. going to come from, guess who? the rich. . >> reporter: health republicans say if bush era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >> reporter: max olsen opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> you add their payroll, plus an extra tax amount. then i might not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: president obama pressed his case tuesday with ceos of some of the country's largest companies. >> and i'm here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: the president says he wants to raise tax rates on just about everyone in the room to balance the budget. >> we're not insisting on rates. just out of spite or out of
's up to the republicans. >> let's talk about the negotiations themselves. president obama and the house speaker spoke for a short time yesterday. nobody knows exactly what they said. and president obama is going to talk to a family in virginia, sort of a deal to get -- why don't both sides go to camp david, lock themselves behind closed doors and come up with a deal? why a pr stunt, visiting voters when that's not going to get a deal done with republicans. >> i certainly would welcome that. i think most americans would. i think what the white house is doing -- and i think it's smart -- making sure that this conversation stays where it should be, with the middle class. the white house has been raising this point. they have this #my2k, explaining to republicans and the country, we can't afford for $2,000 more to hit our tax bill. it's important for the american people to stay engaged and the white house has to keep the american people engaged and this family will be speaking for a lot of people. it doesn't make any sense, even the polls show that the wealthy are willing to pay more taxes.
of republicans, billy kristol and others say that there's going to be about $1 trillion in tax increases. president obama won the election. he's pressing on that. now we're seeing tom cole of oklahoma and other republicans saying that let's get through this process and move on to the next issue. a lot of them have seceded this fight. president obama has a lot of refer rage. >> a lot of members in congress are talking about this but they don't really have any influence in it just looking at outside. not everybody is happy about it. bernie sanders, the independent from vermont, says that the senate needs to find a way to make its self more relevant and, you know, it seems like their question, david, is is this any way to run a democracy? >> this is the only way to get a deal. the members have a right to vote against anything that they are against. but there's no way that you can have a negotiation between two competing sides if you have one individual on one side and 400 individuals on the other. it just doesn't work. so what the speak ser going to have to do is go back to his members, har
. >>> still no signs of progress between republicans and democrats as the year-end deadline to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts inches closer. no face-to-face talks are scheduled at this time. but as danielle nottingham reports, president obama is continuing his push to sell to the american public. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight. they're not due back until next week. but house speaker john boehner is staying behind, ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican propoise -- proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say if bush-era tax cuts are not extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >>
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barack obama, trying to win that will truly be the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> that's a strong statement, but not entirely inaccurate. she will be a formidable candidate if the economy is improving and they get a budget deal. look, three times in a row, very rare, george bush, ronald reagan, last time it happened. nothing is given, but given the demog r demography, her appeal would be formidable. >> the republican party in four years, hopefully more competitive. governors getting their sfripz. marco rubbo and paul ryan, reframing the republican party. is it possible there could be a new republican party in four years? i certainly hope so. we'll see. >> i have been waiting for this all along. newt gingrich, saying hillary clinton formidable. my god. >> i believe hell has frozen over and cats and dogs now getting together. >> i want hillary to run. i'm excited. >> still ahead, on "starting point" we'll talk about my documentary that aired last night. what it means to be black in america. my new doc looked at racial identity. the cont
mr. obama demanded republicans raise the debt ceiling this month without any spending cut strings attached. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in february without more deficit reduction. >> history shows the only major deficit cutting deals we ever do around here, ever comes after debates over the debt ceiling. it may be a good idea if you don't care about the debt but it's a non-starter for those of us who do. >> reporter: public opinion generally is on the president's side, but republicans in the house are not paralyzed or perilous, more unified behind speaker boehner than a year ago. why is this important? the white house is beginning to notice
. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: they say if the bush-era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt everyone. and they invited people here to make their point. >> reporter: max olson opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> you add their payrolls, plus an extra tax amount, then i may not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: president obama pressed his case tuesday, with ceos from some of the largest companies. >> i'm here to tell you, nobody wants to get it done more than me. >> reporter: the president wants to raise taxes on just about everyone in the room to balance the budget. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certai
and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on, not in public and not in p
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